'There is a victory for humanity out there' - Run the Jewels lockdown interview

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Atlanta-born Killer Mike and New Yorker El-P make up American hip hop duo Run the Jewels and they've just released their fourth album 'Run the Jewels 4'. Despite being written last year, this fire-fuelled album highlights stark realities of the world in 2020. (Subscribe: )

In a two-person special episode, they talk to Krishnan about optimism, protest, the creative process, marijuana (legal in their states), the election, and the anger and vitality of their new record RTJ4.

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